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Dirk said:

> OP. You only need a small amount of oxygen for stabilising the flame and
> for making the focus of the flame hotter so that the flame is cooler to
> the outsides. Zis is esential four doing neontjoebingk prefenting zurmul
> stwez.

I find this the biggest advantage of adding oxygen.  I've added small
amounts to both a cannon fire and a BMT-7 ("splicing") fire.  With such,
the flame is quieter, smoother, hotter, and there's significantly less
"splash" -- I can have my fingers almost 1" away without getting burned.
Very nice indeed.

But it's too costly for me with the above burners.  I have a small tank
hooked up to a HOKE torch for tubulating, fixing holes, and general
cosmetic retouching.  I've wondered how good those oxygen generators
are.  My understanding is that the output is about 80% pure, and they
work by forcing air thru a filter of sorts that lets mostly O2 by.  This
might make it practical, but I bet they're expensive?

And a question for Dirk:  why would one NOT use "blowers" for neon, but
compressors instead?  You say only 1 shop in Holland is using such.
Blowers (and I'm thinking regenerative-type here) are quiet, oil-free,
non-pulsing (no buffer tank needed), and very reliable (1 moving,
non-contact part).  There was a shop here (until they burned down a few
months ago) using a giant compressor as the air supply.  Seemed
wasteful:  a 5 horse motor and it just barely did the job.

       -John

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