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Re: So, what do YOU do in this case..
! So I'm looking at all this wondering, do I reinstall
>it the same way? Aren't I liable for it once I touch it? How would you-all
>handle such a mess?
I'd give them a choice between paying you for the time you spent or redoing
the work and making it legal. This gives you a graceful way to walk away
from a client you might not necessarily want.
>
>In past jobs that's where I STOP and give
>my new bid; in this case it's someone who has more work coming up, and who
One should have no bearing on the other. (in theory, of course)
>otherwise like working with, so I absorb it...
>
>Problem #4: See problem #1 above; One neon unit is broken when it comes time
>to store the sign -- of course it's one of the long tight-fit script units,
>with no one taking credit for the crunch. (Why would they? They're just
>helping Uncle out, clearing out the store...)
It hasn't quite turned into the job from hell...yet.. If you know that your
handling of the work was not the cause, it's really on them. I know this is
all easier said than done -- but I live in a town where they love to bring
new shops in on jobs where they have a mess on there hands. My usual first
response is "Did you contact the company that made the sign?" The usual
reply is either "They're out of business or I don't like working with them."
This usually means that they didn't pay $$ owed for extra problems that
occurred either from a piss-poor job to begin with or from unforeseen
problems that no one took responsibility for. Amazingly, there always seems
to be a promise of a big job, if I'd just fix this one. Do I sound cynical?
I could retire on all those big jobs that never emerge or all the work that
a job will supposedly bring from all the people the client knows.
>
>
>>Does anyone know of a circuit using semiconductor devices to
>> control neon lights?
>Why YES as a matter of fact -- Neon News #16 had as its cover story using an
>IBM clone to control solid state relays, using the 5-volt output from the
>printer port and programmed in BASIC. The relays in turn controlled the neon
>transformers.
Great! Haven't seem the article yet -- Along these lines, there's an
outrageous use of pcs or even old plug into your tv ($5 for the computer $15
for a b/w TV at the salvation army) computers like the Vic-20 etc.. printed
a few years ago in Electronics Now -- where a basic program was used to
place white boxes on screen at specific moments and durations. Photosensors
are glued or mounted against the screen and when they are triggered they
control solid state relays. Crude but incredibly effective when you
consider that even the low-res 40 X 25 character screen can accurately
control 1000 units this way.
>
>I also remember reading somewhere (Signs of the Times?) that Joe Upton (East
>Coast) builds his own controllers using similar solid-state relay technology.
Joe's last name is Upham and he's in the Boston area - He _is_ quite the
electronics wizard.
Kenny Greenberg
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